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witch-hunt. >> this morning, the president is fuming or at least he claims to be that more than 40 questions that the special counsel passed on to his legal team were leaked to the new york times, even though really it does appear it was leaked by someone connected to the president. the president says there are no questions about collusion. there are. he declared it is very hard to obstruct justice for a crime that never happened. actually it's not. cnn's kaitlan collins at the white house. whatever he's saying, it is clear he's responding at least in some way, kaitlan. >> reporter: he's lashing out at these questions, john and poppy. not pleased they're published at all. saying it was disgraceful. the questions give us insight into what robert mueller wants to know. he wants to know the president's thinking on several issues, including the firie ining of mi flynn, james comey, his relationship with the attorney general jeff sessions. the president falsely said there were no questions about collusion, but spoiler alert, there were, actually several questions about that today in these questions released including when did the president become aware that trump tower
meeting that involved the russian lawyer, donald trump jr., paul manafort and jared kushner. robert mueller wants to know what involvement did you have in the communication strategy, including the release of donald trump jr.'s e-mails. of course that was in regarding to that statement that falsely said the meeting was about russian adoptions and then they later admitted it was not. it was because donald trump jr. believed they had dirt on hillary clinton. robert mueller wants to know about that trip that the president made to russia, and what communication he had with the agalovs and the russian government official. then in regards to the firing of james comey, robert mueller wants to know what did you mean when you told those russian officials in the oval office the day after you fired comey, when you said that it took the pressure off. he also wants to know when you fired mr. comey, what -- when was that decision made, why, who played a role? that will be very interesting,
john and poppy. we know that they have begun drafting that statement on firing james comey several days before they actually made the decision to fire him. and, of course, the white house maintained for 48 hours after they fired him that it was only because of the recommendation of the attorney general jeff sessions and the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. but clearly, the president, john and poppy, not happy the questions have been leaked. they give us a detailed road map into this investigation, an investigation that has been very close knit, that hasn't let a lot come out, at least, on their side. clearly the white house is not pleased about this. but the president could base questions about this when we see him, sarah sanders, the press secretary certainly will when she holds a press briefing later on this afternoon. >> kaitlan collins at the white house, thank you. let's try to understand more about this. joining us, cnn legal analyst ann milligram. you had a chance to look at the questions. what is your big takeaway? >> a few things. first of all, it is extraordinary to have questions like this, given to somebody who will be a witness in an
investigation. it just never happens. it is important to remember how extraordinary this is. the second thing is that everything we have been talking about from conspireing with the russian government to influence the election to obstructing justice, all of that is here. and it is really important to note that all of the things that the president is being investigated for there are questions as to all of them. any suggestion that mueller and his team are not still investigating, whether or not his campaign colluded, that's not the right word, it is really conspiracy or aiding and abetting, there are a lot of questions in there. what is particularly interesting to me, there are a couple of questions where, by the way, i think the special counsel knows the answer or has evidence on all of these questions, we should say that. he's a good lawyer. so he's done his homework. the one question that struck out to me w the one, what it you know about paul manafort's outreach to russia. >> we have that. >> that's not something that, you know, has been known i think, publicly before that manafort was making. >> aside from the fact that it has not been previously reported, if there was outreach from manafort to russia, what does that question tell you that
mueller is really digging into. >> i think it tells us two things. one there was outreach by manafort to russia and i think the second question is, you know, to conspire with the russian government, to influence the campaign, one of the key questions will be communications between them. we know the russians attempted and in fact did influence the american election. what we don't know -- we know there were a number of efforts to coordinate with russia to get dirt on hillary clinton. what was he doing there? it is particularly interesting. that's him reaching out to them. >> there are questions about collusion. the question is flat out wrong when he says there is no questions on collusion here. also, it is interesting to me, in this case, that the special counsel's office has spoken to michael flynn, has george papadopoulos cooperating. can you see evidence of their cooperation within these questions? >> yes. there is no question about it. so if -- remember that there are 18 days after flynn is interviewed, when we know he's not truthful with the fbi. 18 days after that before he's
fired. so it is always been an incredible question, which is who was he communicating with, what did the president know what did other members of the president's team know. here we see from the questions they're asking all kinds of questions, who did you speak with, who was in the room when you made decisions, whether it is flynn or comey, all of that is informing these questions. and, remember, again, the mueller team will have information from those interviews with gates, with flynn, from comey's memos, they'll have information that is leading them to ask these specific questions. >> i want to put up one other thing that the president said this morning about this. his review of this. obviously, not someone who has been at law school. he says it would seem very hard to obstruct justice for a crime that never happened, witch-hunt. >> that's just not true. look, i think we all know it is often the cover-up, not the crime, that gets people in trouble. this is a great example where -- there are countless examples where the government is investigating something, they ultimately can't prove that crime, but they can prove that someone obstructed justice. and, remember, that's so
important because the government can't figure out -- there is no way for us to know whether crimes have been committed unless we're allowed to do an investigation and get information. >> a lot of the questions begin with, you know what did you think when, what did you think in reaction to the story you were trying to fire the special counsel, you know, what did you feel or what was going on in your mind what does that get to? to the issue of intent? >> yeah, so with obstruction of justice you have to prove corrupt intent. and so for all the evidence i think the special counsel has, he still needs to hear the president say what he was thinking and intending. now, it may turn out to be false exculpatory meaning he may lie to robert mueller and not tell him the truth about what he was thinking and there may be evidence that the special counsel already has contrary to that, but they go to what he was thinking. >> if you were serving as a lawyer for the president, and a million billion years after seeing these questions, would you let him or advise him to sit down and answer them. >> i think -- the short answer would be no, but the longer answer is this is complicated. because he has been stating publicly that he has nothing to hide. i do believe that robert mueller
may issue a subpoena to get him before the grand jury. i know mueller wants the testimony. he is to weigh -- he is to weigh these options. >> ann milligram, fascinating discussion, thank you for being with us, appreciate it. want to discuss a little further, joining us, democratic congressman david ciccilini of rhode island. you've had a chance, i take it, to take a look at the questions now. "the new york times" says the questions were read aloud to the trump team attorneys who wrote them down, took notes and provided to the times by someone outside the legal team. it appears they were connected to the president somehow. what do they get out of this? >> yeah, i mean, it is -- good morning. it is hard to figure out why they think this is advantageous to them other than maybe to try to accuse the special counsel of releasing them. obviously that's not true. this special counsel has -- had
really no leaks at all, this would be a departure from all of the practices of robert mueller. so i think the only fair references that came from someone in the trump orbit, hard to figure out why they think that is a good thing. these questions demonstrate this is a serious investigation with lots of unanswered questions about the president's participation and his knowledge. both in the conspireing or colluding with the russian government and the campaign, and obstruction of justice efforts. i'm not sure how they benefit from this, but it is a reminder of why we have to be sure that mr. mueller can continue this work uninhibited with the resources he needs, with no political interference to get the answers to these questions. >> the new york times says that john dowd, who was the president's personal attorney, resigned or quit, about a week after seeing these questions. we know there is a few. john dowd was saying don't testify or don't answer questions to the special counsel of the president. could this leak be some message to the president, hey, these are serious, listen to how people are reacting to this, you don't
want to testify? >> it may be. if in fact that's the strategy to release it so that the president hears from other advisers that john dowd was right, that it is dangerous for him to go voluntarily and answer the questions. maybe that's the objective. but i think there is no question that we can conclude they came from somebody in trump orbit trying to figure out why they did it may be difficult. if you look at the questions, they demonstrate that the president has a lot of very difficult questions to answer, and it shows that this investigation is on going, both with respect to russian participation and collusion with the trump campaign, and the on going efforts of the president to impede, undermine, obstruct or stop the investigation. >> so the reason i'm asking you this question, as a member of the house judiciary committee, is if the president ultimately doesn't it, if he refuses to speak to robert mueller's investigators, what will you do about it?
does congress then have a role? will you ask congress to step in? >> i think robert mueller has tools at his disposal to compel the testimony of the president. the president is not above the law. and robert mueller had the ability to issue a subpoena to bring the president before a grand jury if he thinks that's appropriate. i think if the president refuses to comply with that, that's a challenge of a whole different dimension. but i think robert mueller to the extent he needs the answers to these questions and needs to hear from the president that he will in fact have the opportunity to hear directly from the president, whether voluntarily or as a result of the subpoena. it is also very significant that these questions were provided or these areas of inquiry were provided to the president's counsel before the interview. that's a very unusual courtesy offered to the president of the united states. not offered to most witnesses in any on going investigation. >> you introduced this special counsel transparency act in
april. which would preserve the special counsel's work. why do you think that's necessary? >> well, i think, you know, we wanted to be sure that if the special counsel is fired, or if efforts are made to replace any of the special counsel staff, in an effort to impede or interfere or interrupt this investigation, we want to be sure that the documents and evidence that has been collected is preserved so that whoever takes on that responsibility will have the benefit of all of those, documents and all that evidence collected, to protect the integrity of this investigation. when you have the president of the united states actively undermining it, mocking it, doing everything he can to stop, impede, end it, we want to be sure that those documents that have been collected by the professionals in the department are protected for use as the investigation continues. >> the washington post is reporting, members of the house freedom caucus, some republicans in the house have drafted articles of impeachment for deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. that would have to go through
your committee, go through the house judiciary committee. what do you make of this move? >> i think it is a terrible message to the department, to the investigators, to the independent counsel. look, this is a serious investigation. our republican colleagues should be working with us in a bipartisan way to make sure this investigation is protected from any political interference that has the resources it needs to complete the work. and that no one attempts in any way to interfere. by threatening rosenstein by doing his job, because they may not like the results of the investigation, 19 people indicted, five people pled guilty already, the president as obviously growing more and more concerned about what ultimately will be his fate and they took an oath to the constitution of the united states. we should protect our democracy, protect the process, protect the rule of law. i'm very disappointed that they would even suggest that they were seriously considering
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president's orbit. our political commentator paul begala, scott jennings are here. nice to have you here. i would say it is fair to say you both know a thing or two about leaks coming from the world of washington. given that, paul, to you, why? it is very clear this is coming from someone in the president's orbit, so why? who does it benefit and how? >> i think it benefits the president enormously. i'm surprised, i think it may be feigned outrage. who wouldn't want to know the answers to the questions before they take a test? certainly ken starr never sent bill clinton the questions in advance. i don't think patrick fitzgerald sent the bush white house questions in advance. it is an enormous benefit to know where the prosecution is going. >> one thing for the president to know and his team to know, the legal team had these for a while, it seems, it is another thing to have them out there. that's i guess what i'm asking about. why have them out there? >> that's the best way to lobby
as president, through the magic box. mr. president, don't listen to all the lawyers, testify. you have nothing to hide, you've done nothing wrong. go in there under oath, answer all the questions, you never lie. that's my advice to him. >> so scott jennings, let me establish for our viewers who didn't quite get the fact that paul was being facetious there, to me, is the message to the president, look, you got to be very careful here. there are a lot of questions that could put you in serious danger. does this, you know, really lower the possibility the president will sit down and answer questions? >> yeah, that's a good question. i mean, number one, if you look at the list, i don't think there is really anything in here that is unexpected. this is all the stuff we heard about, based on the events, the meetings, the players, the people interviewed. i thought the list of questions was really predictable. the pr guy in me wants the president to go in and answer questions, he's maintained his innocence all along. if he believe he's done nothing, he should have no trouble answering questions.
the armchair lawyer in me is nervous because these questions appear to be open ended, maybe designed to get president talking as opposed to just saying yes or no. and then the dealmaker in me thinks maybe there is a middle ground, could these things be answered in writing. that's where i think my mind is this morning. were these things leaked to try to get president into a place where he tries to get a deal with the special counsel, to answer these in writing, which makes him responsive to the investigation, but less susceptible to getting trapped inside of a room with very experienced investigators. >> the real story may be the many voices in scott's head talking to him at any one time. >> paul begala, another big headline this morning is nbc's reporting on chief of staff general john kelly and the fact that four people, you know, adviser -- people within the white house say they witnessed kelly calling the president an idiot. on the broader story of kelly's tension with -- they cite eight sources of people within the white house. this is a doozy for the white house to say the least. so how long does this marriage
last? >> he's on his third -- >> who is delightful. i actually -- she's my very favorite person in the white house. i hope she certainly outlasts her husband in this job, i don't know if that's possible, constitutionally, but what the hell. yeah, it is terrible. we never have seen anything like it. you go all the way back to the history books and, you know, don regan, president reagan's chief of staff in his second term, would privately sometimes disparage the president and he got fired. nancy reagan actually fired him. john sununu was the first, big for his britches, george w. bush fired him. i don't think we have seen a chief of staff deriding the president's intellect. by the way, echoing the general mcmaster who reportedly called him an idiot and a dope, gary cohn who called him an idiot, secretary of state rex tillerson had adjective in front of idiot. i think there is a reoccurring
motif here in the trump administration, people closest to the president don't think he's that bright. >> tillerson called him a moron. >> moron, sorry. >> moron there. scott, i want to shift gears, i want to cover more ground here and put up the national enquirer headline. it is in the supermarket near you, this is the cover -- trump's fixers, secrets and lies, talking about michael cohen, very supportive of the president, jim acosta reporting that people close to the president think this is a very strong sign the president is turning against michael cohen and michael cohen, had asked if a message was being sent by this cover, michael cohen said what do you think? kind of a big yikes around that, isn't there? >> yeah, and there ought to be, frankly. with the mueller investigation, we pretty much know everything. heck, we even had the list of questions now that the president is going to be expected to answer. but with the cohen side of it, we know very little. we know his office was raided. we don't know exactly what they
were looking for. we don't know exactly what they had. and these things, of course, predate the presidency so a lot of people around the president may not know what is mixed up with michael cohen in his work for donald trump. the fact that this part of the investigation is extremely opaque is an oh, yikes moment for anyone who supports the president. when you're flying -- it is like flying the airplane and the instrument panel is down and you're in the clouds, it is sca scary. >> quickly before we go, let me ask you this, marco rubio, republican marco rubio comes out and basically bashes the republican tax bill, that many republicans want to run on. here is what he said. there is no evidence whatsoever that the money has been massively poured back into the american worker. again, from republican senator marco rubio. not the effective campaigning tool for this fall that many republicans have hoped for?
>> i totally disagree with marco rubio. i think republicans are happy with the tax cut. i think american workers are happy with it. with all due respect to the senator, there is a reason he did not win the republican primary. this right here. these tax cuts are are working, the economy is humming. the president's number in the gallup survey is as high as it has been in 11 months. these republicans need to embrace two words, peace and prosperity, prosperity comes from tax cuts and deregulation, which is what the president and the republican party have been doing. so get on message, marco, let's go. >> that was the fighter in scott jennings. >> clearly. >> not the pr guy. scott jennings, paul begala, thank you very much. israeli's prime minister says he has new information that destroys the foundation of the iran nuclear deal, but where is the proof? did he put anything new forward? next. i'm not a bigwig.
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55,000 files, not only with the iaea, but also with the other signatories to the deal. that's very much an attempt to push these countries towards nixing the iran deal. yet, he very much had one target in mind, and that was president donald trump. this was delivered first in english for a reason, because it is trump, it is the west who he was speaking to. he certainly is of the opinion that had they known, had netanyahu put forward this information, at a different date, they never would have signed this deal to begin with. here he is in an interview with cnn's chris cuomo. >> if this was known in 2015, the nuclear deal as was done would not be done. and in fact, a key condition for its implementation was that iran come clean and it gave them a clean bill of health, that they have no secret nuclear weapons. that's not true. >> reporter: and yet if that's the case, he's trying to prove, it seems like he hasn't gotten there yet with anyone perhaps except the americans.
that's because after speaking with the french, the british, the russians, the chinese, and the germans, most of those leaders have stuck by the iran deal, saying it is the best mechanism for monitoring iran's nuclear program, and monitoring iran's nuclear ambitions as well as the best option for imposing sanctions should they violate the terms of the iran deal. as it stands now, from the iaea and the other signatories to the iran nuclear deal, no one has come out and said, yes, netanyahu put forward information that iran clearly violated the deal. that he hasn't proven yet. >> so the united states, the white house came out with a statement of support of benjamin netanyahu overnight and had to correct one letter in that statement. but it was a really, really important one. >> reporter: absolutely. they attributed this to a clerical error. take a listen to this. here is the original statement. these facts are consistent with what the united states has long known, iran has a robust clandestine nuclear weapons program that it tried and failed to hide from the world and from
its own people. has. that they still have this program going on. but they had to correct that. these facts are consistent with what the united states has long known, iran had a robust, clandestine nuclear program. so a very big difference there in terms of the first statement. they had to issue a correction there, and basically say, look, we just accused iran of violating the jcpoa statement, that's not what we meant to say, a clerical error, here is the updated statement, everyone knew all along they had at one point were trying to develop a nuclear weapons program. >> an important consonant indeed. >> the most important consonant in that entire statement. >> indeed. >> all right. new this morning, north korean state media is issuing a new warning to u.s. officials, this time, though, it is a bit different than what we have seen in the past. >> this time they say u.s. officials should knock out north korea's commitment to dismantle their nuclear weapons saying do not miss the opportunity. live now from seoul, alexander field, give us the latest. >> reporter: hey there, john and
poppy. north korea in past few days has been saying some of the right stuff, but they also said some of the right stuff before. you heard some skepticism, of course from the highest levels of the u.s. administration. secretary of state mike pompeo himself saying we have our eyes wide open when it comes to dealing with north korea. that said, plans continue to rapidly develop for this historic summit that could take place as soon as the end of this month between donald trump and kim jong-un himself. one possibility that certainly being eyed by all sides now is to have that summit at the dmz. it would look a lot like the one you saw just a few days ago between the south korean and the north korean leader. it has been said that president trump along with millions of other people was watching that moment carefully, that he was impressed by the imagery he saw, that handshake that happened, he saw the leaders walking across the line of demarcation and he believes that holding the summit at the dmz would give him the same opportunity to project those kinds of symbolic and historic images to the world. it would also allow for the cameras to be rolling if he
decided he needed to get up and walk away from the proverbial table in any conversation with kim jong-un. this is not, however, a done deal yet. the blue house here in south korea says there would be no place that would be more symbolic from a logistical perspective, would work for north korea, they have concerns with how they would secure the north korean leader as he travels to the summit. so the dmz could make sense from all sides. but you do certainly have skeptics within the administration, in d.c. urging a more neutral location, a place like singapore, there are those who simply say it just appears too conciliatory at this point for the president to head to the dmz to have this kind of sit-down with kim jong-un. poppy, john? >> alexander field, thank you so much. it is supposed to be a safe way to get a ride home. now a cnn investigation reveals at least 100 cases of uber drivers accused of sexual assault or abuse. stay with us.
so a new cnn investigation that could raise serious questions for the millions of people who count on uber. cnn has found that more than 100 uber drivers in the u.s. have been accused of sexually assaulting or abusing passengers during the last four years. >> dozens of criminal now civil cases pending, more than 30 drivers have been convicted on charges ranging from battery to rape. drew griffin joins us live and, drew, i've been digging into this for a long time. this affects millions of americans, i think 40 million americans used uber last year. >> right. john and poppy, we went to uber and tried to get data from them on how many of its drivers have been accused of sexual assault. the company would not or could not provide that data. so we scrambled through every public record we could find. and the stories we came up with were frightening. >> anxiety, depression. >> like many victims, she feels shame, hasn't told her children,
is trying to protect her own privacy, but still wants every woman to know what she says happened to her when she began feeling intoxicated at a miami area bar. sought a safe ride home and used the convenient uber app to summon a ride. >> i didn't remember anything until the next morning. >> reporter: the next morning -- >> the next morning i woke up and both my pants and my underwear were on the floor. >> reporter: evidence pointed to assault. her uber driver is charged with felony sexual battery, has pled not guilty and is awaiting trial. she is suing the company that promises a safe ride home. a cnn investigation has uncovered dozens of cases like hers, none of the information comes from uber, which did not provide cnn numbers on how many of its drivers have been accused of sexual assaults, the company saying they're working through
their data. instead, cnn scoured public records, police reports, civil and criminal court cases, and talked with a dozen attorneys representing victims. the results, cnn has documented at least 103 uber drivers in the u.s., who have been accused of sexually assaulting or abusing their passengers in the past four years. at least 31 of those drivers have been convicted on charges ranging from battery to rape. dozens of criminal and civil cases are pending. uber is by far the largest ride-share company with 15 million rides per day worldwide. and while hard to compare directly, the smaller ride share company lyft with 1 million rides per day in the u.s. and canada is also dealing with sexual assaults by its drivers. a similar cnn review found 18 cases of lyft drivers accused, four drivers have been convicted and a dozen criminal and civil cases are pending.
lyft told cnn the safety of the lyft community is our top priority, and the company says that it has worked hard to design policies and features that protect our community. many of the cases fit a pattern, like this one, when this woman was escorted out of a bar in long beach, california, and got into the back seat of an uber. the individual reports from across the country are horrific, in san diego an uber driver pled guilty to raping one passenger and sexually assaulting at least nine other women. in a serial rape case that sent him to prison for 80 years. in northern ohio, an uber driver pled guilty to unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, forcing a young passenger to perform a sex act on him. in ft. worth, texas, an uber driver allegedly kidnapped an elderly passenger, driving her to a wooded area where, according to the police report, he raped and beat her. he has not entered a plea. victims kidnapped, raped, trapped in cars with electronic locks, one victim told police
she was forced to drink her driver's urine. and multiple experts from police to lawyers to prosecutors tell cnn the actual number of uber drivers accused is much higher than the 103 we found. either the crimes aren't reported, there isn't enough evidence to prosecute, or uber quietly settles the matter before a civil case can even be filed. uber first agreed to and canceled an interview with cnn about this story and instead gave us a statement about safety updates the company has made since cnn first started asking about the pattern of sexual assaults months ago, including an emergency button, drive screening improvements and the addition of the former secretary of homeland security to head up uber's safety advisory board. the company insists it is putting safety at the core of everything we do. >> uber has done a miraculous job of keeping this story quiet. >> reporter: attorney jean
christianson has been suing uber on behalf of victims since 2015. uber, she says, settles cases and demands silence from all parties. nondisclosure agreements in exchange for a settlement. how many cases have you and your firm handled? >> i can't go on the record and say that because of confidentiality, sorry. >> reporter: in addition to money, the class action lawsuit against uber seeks more thorough screening of drivers. john and poppy, you can become an uber driver almost -- well, you can, completely online. the company does its own background checks, but doesn't involve fingerprints in those background checks. critics including government regulators say that's just not enough. they want this company to do much, much more to make sure its riders are safe. >> to be very clear, drew, you guys asked and asked and asked for anyone to -- from uber to go on camera to talk to you, right? >> reporter: we had an interview set up last week in san francisco with their top
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president trump in this book "restless way," this is what he writes, he has declined to distinguish the actions of our government from the crimes of despotic ones. the appearance of toughness or reali reality seems to matter more than any of our values. here to discuss, ana navarro who worked on senator john mccain mccain's -- that criticism getting a lot of attention today, suggesting there is no distinction between the trump government and despotic ones. what do you make of that? >> reading those excerpts yesterday made me emotional. it is a gift from john mccain as he faces mortality, as he faces down a, you know, very tough diagnosis. providing moral clarity, providing courage, showing us what putting country over party
looks like, showing us what having a spine and having convictions and having principles looks like. i think it is an example for other republicans to follow at this point. you know, i think it is him -- this last gift trying to get us back to a place of civility in the discourse of bipartisanship, of being pragmatic and being proactive and solution-based. i can almost hear his voice when i was reading some of those excerpts, a voice that i miss hearing so much. i thought of what it must have meant to him to do this last project with mark salter who is -- practically a son to him. he's been his chief of staff, his alter ego, has collaborated with john mccain on many other books. they know each other's voices in a way that i think few people do. and so it is a remarkable gift from my friend john mccain in these very difficult days that
he's facing. >> and let me read one of the excerpts, certainly stood out to us. before i leave, i would like to see our politics begin to return to the purposes and the practices, that distinguished our history from the history of other nations. i would like to see us recover our sense that we are more alike than different. we're citizens of a republic made of shared ideals forged in a new world to replace our tribal enmity s thies that that tormented the old ones. john mccain stopped and corrected him and these two were in a fierce race. and i thought, could that happen today? >> it could. it could. you know, i think john mccain
would be capable of it, frankly it is hard for me to hear anything past the words before i leave. and i wish other people, i wish other elected officials, i wish other people in congress and the senate would act with that level of freedom and conviction as if this was their last term, as if they too were facing their last days and facing their own mortality, with that level of service to others and that service to country and humility that john mccain is showing us in this book. it is a lesson for all of us. go live life like it is your last day, like if it is your last month. and go make a difference. john mccain is trying to make a difference until, you know, with every day he may have left. >> from the very beginning of his presidential campaign, donald trump really went after john mccain, from the beginning of the campaign really to, you know, john mccain is one of the last acts in the senate before he went back to arizona, which was his no vote on health care. let's review some of those
moments. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured, okay. i hate to tell you. >> except for one senator who came into a room at 3:00 in the morning and went like that, we would have had health care too. we would have had health care too. think of that. except for one vote, remember the one vote, 3:00 in the morning, thumbs down, what a vote that was. what a vote that was. that was some vote. >> we get about 30 seconds left there. there is clearly a divide between supporters of donald trump and the people -- the types of people like you who supported john mccain. how do you heal that divide? >> for me, you don't -- look, i know john mccain and john is not a guy who carries rancor, he doesn't. i can tell you for a lot of us it is a bridge that will never be rebuilt. thanks for reminding me one of the 100 reasons why i will never
normalize, i will never support, i will never accept donald trump as a normal human being. he absolutely lacks empathy. to be doing that kind of thing to a man, first of all, who is a national hero, who has served his country since the age of 17, and who is now facing a stage 4 cancer, you know, that's basically incurable, it is just a level of cruelty. that is hard for most of us to understand. >> ana navarro, thank you for being with us, appreciate it. we all look forward to reading john mccain's book. learning more this morning about the types of questions especially counsel wants to ask the president. a list of those has now been released. the president hitting them, claiming to be very angry at what he calls this disgraceful leak. stay with us. your company is constantly evolving.
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hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. anyone up for a game of 20 questions or how about 49? that's the number of questions "the new york times" obtained that special counsel robert mueller would like to ask president trump. no surprise the president has something to say about all of this and taking to twitter with this. it would seem very hard to obstruct justice for a crime that never happened. witch-hunt. we'll fact check that in a second. more tweets to get to. first, then this, so disgraceful that the questions concerning the russia witch-hunt were leaked to the media. no questions on collusion. but, again, collusion is a focus of the questions including one of the most